A blog and book by Rick Baker about the Mysterious Disappearance of the McStay family on February 4, 2010. In the past three years, the author has spent countless hours investigating this mystery by following an extensive paper trail, interviewing friends and family and traveling to locations of possible sightings. "What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs."
Thanks Rick.
ReplyDeleteNot sure if you can answer this but did Mike & Summer have email interactions in the months before the dissapearance, that Joseph was unaware of?
This is a most interesting question, why do you ask?
DeleteIt is an interesting question. I don't believe he would ever intentionally harm his brother- they appear to have been very close. However it has been suggested that Mike at the very least knows a whole lot more than he has said and I wonder why some think that?
DeleteYes, I believe Mike knows more than he is telling. This was obvious to me when I first interviewed him on my talk show. Plus, his behavior, the things he did, from February 4 though about July of 2010 turn on the sirens and red flashing lights. I have a chapter on Mike in the book, very revealing.
DeleteHi Rick,
DeleteI asked the original question and not because i have information in this direction.
It's more just my belief that Summer is involved and comments in the Surprises post about Mike's involvement. I just wondered whether 2 birds (or agendas) were hit with one stone is all.
Thanks for your work on this case.
S
Are you guys saying that Mike and Summer had a relationship, that Mike is the other man? That Mike went into the house to erase sordid emails between he and Summer? Do you think something happened to Joey, maybe Summer killed Joey, and Mike had to rush in and set up the whole disappearance/mystery in order to keep their secret from his wife and in order to protect Summer? Do you think Mike crossed the border with Summer and the children, set them up somewhere, and returned home like nothing happened? Do we have to "wait for the book to find out"? or will you discuss this plot now if you are insinuating this? I don't believe this happened, but if you do, please openly discuss.
DeleteWow!
DeleteI know the boys' car seats were found in the towed Trooper. Was there a second set of car seats found in Joseph's pickup truck parked at home?
ReplyDeleteI don't think there was a second set of car seats. Maybe Joseph put them in the truck before he left that morning, because Summer would have taken the boys to Ross to shop that afternoon. Unless, of course, you subscribe to the conspiracy theory that someone else used Summer's credit card, which I do not.
DeleteThank you for answering! I was just wondering what Summer might have done *if* Joseph had the seats with him that day (leave the boys at home? get a ride from someone who had child seats?).
DeleteSomething else I've been wondering about is whether Summer placed any ads on Craigslist herself (either looking to buy/hire, or listing items for sale). Do you know?
OK, so say you are correct and there was only one set of child safety seats and Joey transferred them to the truck that day before he left for his meeting driving the Trooper...that means he would have also had to transfer them back to the Trooper before they went out that evening...not something one does quickly from what I have seen. Just something else to think about.
DeleteI appreciate that you are trying to answer questions. I've seen you get run off of sites because of the book and that's too bad. In light of all this I can't help but feel law enforcement should be answering some of these questions or at least make a statement to the public about the case. The silence is deafening and at times infuriating!
ReplyDeleteCertainly I am not used to the crime boards and the hostility that is there. I thought it better to just open my blog to questions that I can answer here and not offend the Mods or anyone else. I was in a quandary because when I was asked a question that I could not answer yet (because the answer is in the book) I was pounded for not answering the question. And, when I said that the answer was in the book, I was pounded by the Mods for "pushing the book" when all I was doing was stating a fact. Not a fun position to be in.
ReplyDeleteMy take on LE is one of two things have happened:
1. LE believes the family has voluntarily left the building and don't have the resources or desire to look for them. Or,
2. LE is quietly conducting a murder investigation and keeping everything close to the vest. There is not much they can do without a body and are probably hoping someone will slip up.
And let's also remember that LE is under no obligation to ever tell the truth about this case, or any other for that matter.
With all due respect, I would love to know the answer to the first question asked here since you did we can ask you questions yet unanswered. FWIW I'm just a mom in Tustin Ranch who lived in San Clemente for many years as a kid so this case really intrigues me. Are there only certain questions you are willing to answer? I'd like to know if you think the house was staged and why they or someone would do that? Also, do you think that is at least Summer and the kids on the border video? Thanks and I so hope we really do get to see your book and its not just a ploy to get them or at least smoke Summer out. can we pre order the book? Also my name is jennifer and I don't know how to put that in the "comment as" pop up
ReplyDeleteHey Jennifer:
DeleteYou can ask any question you would like, but I may not answer them all. I am not going to post the entire book on my site and some questions just have to wait because they are answered in the book.
However, I have and will continue to post every question I receive here on this page, just may choose to not answer.
Now, for your first question, that deals with whether Mike and Summer had any email contact in the months before the disappearance; I choose to not answer this question. Sorry, but I have my reasons.
As for the staging of the house, yes, I believe it was staged and I dig into this in the book, mainly "why" was it staged.
I don't think it is Summer and the kids on the border video, but who knows for sure? No one can say with certainty if it is or isn't. No one.
I assure you the book is not a ploy, although if it were to "smoke Summer out" that would be great! She won't be happy when she reads it, that's for sure.
You will be able to preorder the book in January from my publisher's website, www.tatepublishing.com. The book will be available to order from this blog once it is released on February 4, 2013.
Thank you Rick for answering so respectfully. You really have taken the " hits" from people who for whatever reason feel threatened by you , with grace and you haven't responded in kind. All the more reason I'm buying your book. Keep the info coming on this blog even if it pisses people off. I wonder if LE also feels something possibly sinister happened. I also hope they are actively seeking those kids because he sounds unstable as hell and those boys aren't safe with her.
DeleteJennifer
Rick, I hear a lot about these emails you have. Some say you don't really have them but I see you have the receipts for the pods when mr. Mcstay said you didn't so I'm inclined to believe you have them. care to tell me what they are?
ReplyDeleteYes, I will answer. First though, let's remember that this case is not a game. There are two young boys out there somewhere, let's not lose sight of this. It shouldn't matter what emails I have or where I got them. Only that they help bring closure to this mystery.
DeleteThat said, I have emails from Summer to Joseph, from Summer to her brother Kenneth, and sister Tracy, from Summer to her friends and business associates, from Summer to plastic surgeons, real estate brokers, insurance agents, photographers, financial institutions. I have emails from Summer to people in far away lands, and I have other emails from Summer to a person I cannot reveal here, because it is possible that before my sources captured these emails, a family member might have gone into Joseph's email account and deleted a number of pertinent messages in the week after the disappearance. Luckily, this family member was not able to get into Summer's account so we are fairly confident that her account was unaltered. I have emails from Joseph to Summer, from Joseph to all his friends and business associates, from Joseph to his brother Mike, to his mom, Susan, to his dad, Patrick...
Last night I learned that there are more documents, not publicly revealed, that may provide more puzzle pieces, some surprising. I am sorting through the information today and tomorrow and will update soon.
Again, this is not a game. It is not about "who has what or how they got it." Please ignore the ones who claim it is. Thanks!
Hi Rick,
ReplyDeleteIs your book going to be available in Europe?
Yes. Not sure about book stores, but can always get from www.amazon.co.uk.
DeleteHello Rick,
ReplyDeleteI noticed you said you have inforamtion from financial institutions. Does this include the paypal accounts circulating around on as my understanding Patrick McStay's website about Dan K and the withdrawls that were made from the account? Were you able to speak with Daniel K (sp?) about the dates of the transactions in coorespondence with the alleged spotting in the neighbor's video of the Isuzu leaving on February 4, 2010 as well as the date they found the car at the mall and then subsequently towed the car - I am curious what has LE done about that situation as the details do seem to make the eyebrow raise and need further explanation - the amounts are suspicious too in that that's how much someone would do to avoid a paper trail - I am curious about this and a bit intrigued but I do not know how Patrick McStay got them and I don't think we can ignore that - but I would like to know if you had the opportunity to speak with Daniel K in more detail than what has been found and your thougts about the bank accounts - they are interesting but they are not solid evidence
However - the first two transactions correspond way two closely between February 4th and February 10th not to look at what was done with the money and is that really what happened
Thank you!
Yes, I have communicated with Dan Kavanaugh.
DeletePatrick was given this information by a small group who had gained some of it. I fear, however, that Patrick was not provided all the docs.
Yes, the PayPal account and the three bank accounts.
Hi, Rick. Love the cover (although I wish my title had won...:-)
ReplyDeleteA question you and I discussed by phone but I'd love addressed here, if you are able to disclose:
Is there any proof that Joseph came home on the fourth? It is almost assumed that he came home after work/lunch date, like Father Knows Best, then ushered his family out under duress. However, I am unaware of any verifying evidence to PROVE he ever came home that last day.
Thanks and best.
Hey Matt, nice to hear from you! There is no proof that Joseph ever arrived home that night. I think it is just assumed he did.
ReplyDeleteHere's a question.
ReplyDeleteWhat was 'big enough' to make them run away, or have them killed? Have you got any information on this? Or an opinion?
They're meant to have received a letter from CSA on the 4th. Have you found any evidence that happened? Joey's ex wife's new husband was supposed to have threatened Summer.
Also, the last call from Joey was to Chase Merritt, right? Do you think CM is in any way involved with their disappearance?
Rick, you said that Chase Merritt was not involved in this case in any way, that he had the greatest financial loss after the disappearance of Joey. Does that mean you believe that the disappearance is about financial gain with regard to Joey's business? My understanding is that D.K. had the greatest gain financially from a couple of days after the disappearance when he "realized" they were gone missing till the day he sold the business. But, are you sure the disappearance/crime is about financial gain?
DeleteAlso, you said that the house was staged. Do you mean after the 4th? I believe Michael went into the house once or twice and I believe he said he was the only one who entered. Do you think Michael staged the house? Do you think he staged the eggs, the popcorn, the diaper and the dogs outside. That's not staged as a crime scene or even an unusual day in that household.
Also, do you believe Michael took computers or made changes to emails? Deletions I suppose you are talking about. There's no financial gain in Joey's business for Michael as far as I can see. Perhaps there was something embarrassing in the emails. So what. Perhaps he was saving the family from D.K.'s "intrusive" behavior. That's all I see. No gain, no crime.
Could these actions just be afterthoughts, after the disappearance that is, the financial gain and the cleanup, and not really a part of the disappearance/crime? Could D.K., Michael and Lisa/Summer be innocent of the disappearance/crime aspect of this case and find themselves inserted into the disappearance/crime scenario because of their own personality flaws? I might as well add Patrick's name here. So who is left? You and carefree McGyver. I think you are also innocent of everything but character flaws. Is ballbusting a character flaw?
Good luck to everyone helping to find these parents and children.
Not CSA - CPS - sry!
ReplyDeleteThis was my theory early on based on the information I had been given by family and others helping with the case. But I have since learned much of that info was inaccurate.
DeleteI don't think Chase is involved in any way in the disappearance. He had the greatest financial loss when Joseph disappeared.
So back to my question which you didn't answer... :D
Delete'What was 'big enough' to make them run away, or have them killed? Have you got any information on this? Or an opinion?'
Also, who put the recent Isuzu ad on CL?
Sorry you don't feel welcome on WS. It's hard to be there if you can't offer verifiable evidence. Not much point in being accredited if you're just going to say 'the answer's in the book'. I appreciate the hard work you're putting in. I hope you shake this case up.
Hey Liz, I was hoping you wouldn't catch that! Haha, you are a sleuth! There are just some questions I cannot answer yet. My publisher has put a few limits on me and I think this might be one. Sorry, I am not dodging or pimping the book and I appreciate your questions, please don't be offended?
DeleteI understand the WS dilemma. The last thing I want to do is cause undue stress on the mods because of my answers or too much controversy by my critic's responses to my answers.
LOL. Not offended at all. I notice a little more evasion in this blog thread. ; )
DeleteFair enough and thanks for the reply.
You are very kind. Yes, is getting interesting here. Thanks again for understanding!
DeleteUnfortunately the McStay forum on WS is now being dominated by PM's girlfriend, whom they are letting state all kinds of "facts" without any info to back them up, which usually isn't allowed on WS but I think this case is getting so much attention over there they don't want to shut her up. I've been a WS member for a long time and am very disappointed in how they have let the rules side for this person because of her connection to the case. She had never been able to back up even one single claim she's made, claims which PM has told her.
DeletePM has a girlfriend? Interesting...and you have proof of this? I do believe there are several women, and men, who support him and try to pass on his knowledge to others at WS, but I have seen no evidence of any of them be romantically involved with the elder McStay. I too am a member at WS. As far as I can see they are very careful about what they allow to be said there, probably because they fear lawsuits if they allow posters there to somehow defame the family. WS is a 'victim friendly' environment and it has been stated there many times that, until there is proof otherwise, ALL of the missing family members are considered as 'victims'. Anyone else's 'personal information' is also 'off limits' unless it has direct bearing on the case. This is all part of the 'Terms Of Service' (TOS) at WS...and appears to be applied to everyone who posts there, even Mr. Baker. I have seen no one being allowed to state 'facts' without info/proof...people are allowed to post theories and must state that it is their opinion or theory...as long as it is not aimed at the 'victims' it will stand as a theory. Facts must be backed by evidence which is a matter of 'public' record.
DeleteI am also longtime member WS. It is nice that you consider the remaining family as victims but after three years it is totally illogical to not look at the remaining family members, who didn't bother to report them missing for 10 days. TSL has done NOTHING but state things as facts with nothing to back it up. She has presented herself as an expert and she is not. She cannot back up her posts and if you would like I will paste here many of her posts that prove this. Also, why was she a verified poster and now she is not? So apparently TOS applies to some, but not all? This case is different, you have 4 people who have disappeared and the family members cannot tell the same story twice. Yet, for some reason one person just keeps spouting anything she wants on WS with no accountability. I am real disappointed in WS.
DeleteI did not say 'remaining family members'...I said 'the missing family members' meaning Joey, Summer and their two young sons.
DeleteAs for TLS, I have not seen her post anything as 'fact' without proof, most often she says it is 'moo' meaning it is her own opinion, or 'air' which means it is something she recalls being said in early articles, tv programs, by news media or even other posters or family members. As a long time member of WS, if you have followed this case, you should know that many early articles and videos are no longer available to back up statements made...this does not mean that some who have followed the case from the beginning on both WS and other crime boards (IS, JQ, etc.) do not recall things from those articles/videos, but unfortunately cannot back up their memory with the actually thing. I have also seen many of TLS's posts removed, just as others' posts have been. Just because you disagree with her, or anyone elses posts does not mean they are invalid.
I apologize, I misunderstood about the family members. But TLS misuses MOO constantly. It is not that I disagree with her, often times I do not. It is that she posts as fact about things she knows nothing about. She has never left her Georgia home yet acts as an expert. Does not know the family has not talked to them have never met them. This hurts the case and WS when the mods allow her posts as fact, even with her moo. Even though some of the links may be gone now, a good investigator most of the time can still find the information. For some reason the mods at WS just allow her to post about whatever she wants. Seems like there is always someone like her on all these sites and it hurts their credibility.
DeleteIDK, but it would be my guess that few, if any, WS posters have ever left their computers/homes, ever met any of the Mc
DeleteStay family or friends, etc. That is, and has been one of the problems with this case on WS from the beginning...there are no 'verified' posters of any kind. Most WS cases have 'verified' family members, friends, community residents, reporters, even law enforcement connections...this case does not and never has. We are basically left with little or no real evidence or facts to discuss and no one with any expertise on the family or the case itself.
These people are ridiculous
DeleteI find the people posting at Websleuths to be very conscientious (if not a bit obsessive) and truly want to solve the mystery of what happened to this family. The fact is that a lot of the information and links that have been dug up and posted there are an invaluable resource to the case as I am sure Rick and some members of law enforcement would attest to.
DeleteRick you have traveled across the country in recent months to follow leads and interview people. Seems like this is more than law enforcement or the extended McStay family members have done- or is it?
ReplyDeleteDo you know of anyone else who has done any serious leg work in this case?
While I don't know what LE is doing, I do know two people who have done so much more than I.
DeleteI only hope that the book lives up to their standards.
Who are the two people? It sounds like you have a great deal of respect for them.
DeleteYes, without them there would be no book.
DeleteIs it true that Joey gave Patrick his and Summer's email passwords? What is your take on that?
ReplyDeleteJoseph did not email his passwords to Patrick. If he had them why did he wait "ten months" (his own words) to get into to accounts?
ReplyDeleteSummer's passwords were not in any of Joseph's emails.
I heard a rumor that Summer called CPS on Joey's ex and her husband in regards to Joey's eldest son. Is there any truth to this?
ReplyDeleteThis "theory" is examined in the book.
DeleteThanks!
DeleteOne of my theories is that DK has something to do with their disappearance and it's over money. Here's why:
ReplyDelete1. He was the first one to report them missing
2. He transferred money from JM's paypal account before the family was officially reported missing
3. He has previously threatened Joey
4. In the E! Investigates documentary, he keeps on talking about the mass amounts of money JM was making. He even suspected at least $200k in cash was on Joey.
5. Days before the disappearance, DK asks Joey for money to pay a phone bill
I'm theorizing that if Dan Kavanaugh presumed Joseph McStay had so much money, even cash, and he owed money to others, he could have had a hand in having JM and family done away with so money can be accessed easily to pay back major loans.
As a result of the disappearance, DK illegally sells the business and (keeps the profits?). But not before transferring some funds to himself beforehand.
What do you think?
haha nice job stealing my post from WS and presenting it as yours. Sincerely, SCG1 ;)
DeleteJoey seems to be a good dude. Do you feel that he was unaware of all the 'sinister' things going on around him, or that he did not put enough weight behind bad motives that seemed to surround him ?
ReplyDeleteI wish I had known Joseph. According to every one of his friends that I have either met with personally or talked to on the phone, Joseph was laid back and easy-going. One friend said, "You could always just crash on his couch." Another, "He hated conflict." Still another, "He always looked for the best in people."
DeleteI'd like to revisit the question above about DK. Lots to worry about where he is concerned. Callous, crude, violent,dishonest and worse are words that might be applied. What are your investigations turning up, or at least that which you can share here?
ReplyDeleteGreat question and I think you will be surprised with my take on Dan in the book. I have devoted an entire chapter to him. Very interesting chap.
DeleteI've been reading through your blog and the websleuth forums pertaining to this case after I was reminded of it by a television show this weekend and I guess I was just wondering about the sightings that have been reported over the past 2+ years. If, as the most accepted theories suggest, the family is either willfully hiding or Summer murdered Joey and is willfully hiding herself and the boys, common sense would lead me to believe they altered their appearances significantly. I'd assume that we are no longer looking for two shaggy-haired boys. The most clearly identifiable feature, the younger son's birthmark, could be disguised with a good concealer, especially the kind marketed to cover tattoos. Summer could do any number of things to alter her appearance and if Joey is still in the picture he could make some drastic changes as well. I'm just wondering, if this family is voluntarily missing, how likely it would be they'd be sighted looking just as they did at the time of their disappearance?
ReplyDeleteFirst, thank you for reading my blog and WS and thanks for your interest in this case! We need many more like you so we can hopefully solve it.
DeleteAs for your question, if you or I disappeared in this fashion, I would think we would change our appearance. Different sightings have different looks I guess. From Joey with a shaved head to Joseph Mateo with a strange haircut with long bangs hiding the forehead. Summer? Well, she is Summer.
Again, thanks for your interest!
Thank you, Mr. Baker. I'm new to the internet communities' take on this case but have certainly been perplexed by the shows I have seen discussing it on E! and I.D. networks. I hadn't been on Websleuths or the McStay Facebook page until yesterday and I was taken aback by the some of the vitriol on the Facebook page. This is clearly a frustrating case that might leave tempers running high. The clues in this case are fascinating but few and have stagnated over the years. As long as your book doesn't slander anyone for the sake of slander, I think any push to re-examine evidence and spread interest is a step in the right direction. As you've pointed out, those two little boys cannot simply remain unaccounted for while their safety and wellbeing is in question. Any nastiness can and should be held back for the sake of bringing them home.
DeleteYes, vitriol is the word. I am still not sure why so many are toxic and hostile, especially extended family members. Sure makes you wonder, doesn't it?
DeleteNo slander in the book. Just facts, witnesses, interviews and pictures. Will be a fun read!
Thanks again for your involvement! And yes, it's all about Gianni and Joseph Mateo.
I'm very interested reading Summer's emails to plastic surgeons. The hardest part of disguising the boys would be hiding Joseph Jr's birthmark, there's only so much you can hide with long bangs and putting cover-up on a small child every day would get difficult. It horrifies me to think a parent would subject their small child to the pain associated with plastic surgery for the sake of selfishly hiding them, if that is the case. With Summer's past of changing names, ages, etc. I wouldn't be suprised if she had plastic surgery in the past. Quite a while ago, a young woman (I'm not posting her name as she is still a minor) started posting on the McStay Facebook page claiming she was the McStay's babysitter for a while. Michael McStay did verify this was true. One of the young women's claims was that one day she babysat for Summer while she visited a plastic surgeon so it very well could be Summer herself who was wanting surgery. This young woman had a lot of info regarding the family but was discouraged from talking about it by her mother and claimed the police never spoke with her after the disappearance. I hope to God someone reported her postings to the police and they finally spoke with her because the things she was posting were quite interesting.
ReplyDeleteI saw some of that . . .the babysitter said Summer was paranoid of the neighbors (San Clemente). People were insisting the babysitter stop talking, because she was a minor. They told her to tell MM the story. It seemed the babysitter really wanted to get the story out, but people kept on telling her to stop.
DeleteYes, we certainly hope that law enforcement interviewed her. The plastic surgeons that I have contacted are all in North Carolina.
DeletePlastic surgeons or any MD wouldn't give you or anyone any info on a patient or even indicate they are a patient so you couldn't have gotten any info right?
DeleteJennifer L
Rick
ReplyDeleteWhat brought you to this mystery w/ such passion? Obvious reasons...finding the children/family, but to take the time to write a book & put so much time into it, travels, interviews, ect...
Just curious, I also find this disappearance intriguing! I just cannot believe that there is no known head way in this case by now!!
I moved to Fallbrook a month after the disappearance and it was all anyone talked about. After I started paying attention to the media interviews with remaining family members, I knew something wasn't right. Maybe passion isn't the right word? Maybe it is "addiction." I have never lost sight of the two young boys. It is about them for me. (As well as exposing what has been covered up.)
DeleteThis case mirrors the disappearance of the Jamison family in Eufala, OK. You have to research that case. Dog was left in truck with personal items, 30+ thousand dollars found under the driver's seat. Coats and cell phones left in the truck. There are so many parallels between both cases. Family members want answers, also.
DeleteRick, you listed McGyver McCargar in your most intriguing poll. Is there a reason for this? Does he have a bigger role in this than most people would think?!
ReplyDeleteMcGyver is a fascinating fellow. I have enjoyed our meetings and discussing this case together. Many have claimed he knows more about what happened than he has "publicly" stated, so I thought he needed to be added as well. He does have a major part in the book.
DeleteThanks Rick, very interesting! He seems like a nice guy but i never really focused on him so can't wait to hear your thoughts in the book.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I like McGyver. He's a free spirit to be sure.
DeleteHi Rick
ReplyDeleteI have been reading a lot about this mystery and just want to say that I find your blog to be the one with the best questions and answers!
I really hope your book will be available in South Africa.
Relene
Thanks Relene and thanks for your interest in the case! Yes, the book will be available there.
DeleteRick, over the last couple of weeks i have read references to a black corvette on a couple of forums but can't seem to find info online that explains what they are talking about.
ReplyDeleteCan you please explain what the black corvette they are referring to is?
Yes, I had mentioned a black Corvette because a neighbor had told me one was at Joseph's home a few times during the day in the January 2010.
DeleteOk thNnks, very interesting...
DeleteI believe it is imperative that everyone keep in mind that Joey did not have a 9 to 5 job either...he worked from home just as Summer did, so the person in the black corvette could have been there to see either of them. Also interesting that the neighbors noticed and/or commented on a black corvette but didn't seem to notice anything else...like when the green dodge truck was last seen leaving or returning to the home. Just an observation...I hate to see rumors started based on inconclusive observations.
DeleteYes, you are right, we don't want anymore rumors out there than are currently dominating the online conversations. The black Corvette is unique because Joey asked a neighbor about it. I write more about this car and what it might mean in the book. Thanks for your involvement in this mystery and for trying to keep it on point.
DeleteGood thing it wasn't a Little Red Corvette or you'll be saying she was having an affair with Prince
DeleteFunny, but I've never said she was having an affair with anyone in a black Corvette, just that Joseph asked about it. Thanks for your comment!
DeleteYou said on Justice Quest that she had a rich boyfriend in a black Corvette
DeleteNot quite. I wrote it was possible, only in theory. I have never found the car nor the owner to confirm.
DeleteUhm, Mr. Baker, perhaps you have forgotten the conversation on Justice Quest...you were discussing how you believed that Summer was responsible for Joey disappearing...someone questioned you about how she could have done it and you said you thought she had help. Then you were asked if you had any hunches as to who might have helped her and your response was (and I quote), "I suspect she had a rich boyfriend who had a black corvette.
DeleteSummer wanted the million dollar house in Temecula, yet was forced to live in a $300k house in Fallbrook. And in Summer's 45 years, she has never stayed in a relationship very long."
Then someone questioned where this information came from and your reply was (and again I quote), "I personally talked to every neighbor on the cul de sac, eight in total. Two had moved away, but I found them and we talked.
I believe Summer was having an affair. I make this statement based on my interviews with the neighbors and others. He drove a black Corvette."
Now if that isn't saying that you believe Summer was having an affair with someone who drove a black corvette then I don't know what it is! At no time did you say it was a theory of yours...you stated it as your belief based on what you had allegedly been told by neighbors. One has to wonder why these neighbors never mentioned this to LE or family when questioned in the early days.
Ok, good comment. Let's look at it a different way:
DeleteFirst, we don't know that the neighbor I talked with had already spoken to LE. In fact, we don't have any idea what LE knows, right?
Second, I said that "I suspect" she had a rich boyfriend. I did not write that I knew for sure or could "prove" this. Therefore, it is a theory without proof, yes?
As I wrote on JQ, I talked to the neighbors. However, Joseph and Summer had no friends on their cul de sac and only a few who lived there were home during the days. Most got home between 5pm and 7pm on weekdays and no one really paid any attention to their new McStay neighbors.
Based on what the neighbors and others told me, I "theorized" (and still do) that Summer was having an affair. Until I talk to the owner of the black Corvette, I cannot prove this.
I do believe that Summer is responsible Joseph's death, and I make this case in the book. The reason I see the "alleged" affair as so important is that I cannot get from A to Z with Summer killing Joseph alone. I don't think she is capable of this by herself. She had to have help. Enter, the guy with the black Corvette, or someone else?
Again, we do not know what LE knows and please, do not listen to anyone on any site who tells you differently. In fact, it is clear from Detective Dugal's statement that he believes they did not leave voluntarily and this case is most likely a murder investigation.
Thanks again for your comments and holding me accountable!
Do you think the mystery boyfriend is the man in the border crossing video? ~ Swamp F.
DeleteRick are you still planning to visit Costa Rica at the end of this month?
ReplyDeleteDon't need to now. Thanks for your comment.
DeleteI can't seem to find it now but you previously wrote about an incident when someone purporting to be Joseph called you. In an effort to verify his identity, you asked him about a conversation he had with a neighbor. While he couldn't recall the neighbor's name, he did know the topic discussed. Was that topic the black Corvette? Who do you think the caller was?
ReplyDeleteYes, that was the topic. I address this in the book, but, basically, I believe it was someone with knowledge in the case (and maybe related) who was a bit concerned about what I was going to include for publication in the book and wondering if i was still going to publish it. At that time, I had no intention of going forward to publish.
DeleteI do not believe it was Joseph.
Wow! Very interesting about the Corvette! But with Joseph working at home, wouldnt that be really risky? Also I didnt realize the detectives are now looking at this as a murder investigation. Was it business related or motivated by this alleged affair?
ReplyDeleteLE has been tight lipped about this case and has not "confirmed" that this as a murder investigation, which we should expect and appreciate. This is my opinion based on statements from Det. Dugal. Joseph wasn't "working at home" as often as some might think.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your answer! It is just simply mind-boggling that none of them have been found!:((
ReplyDeleteYes it is. Thanks for your involvement!
DeleteI think you mentioned you had a chance to talk to the neighbor who snapped the video of the Isuzu trooper leaving - was he able to provide any other footage information for earlier that day, and later on and on the days following-
ReplyDeletesomething else was that there was supposedly a newspaper under or by the wheel of the green truck that was parked in the driveway - did the detectives ever look at the date of the newspaper and talk to the paper delivery person to see what if anything they had noticed shortly before during and after he delivered the newspaper - it does seem a bit odd that if Joseph had the trooper for the meeting with Chase Merritt because of the issue with the car seats for the kids -
someething else I'm curious about is that were they ever able to determine exactly what kind of coat she bought at Ross - not just that it was a winter coat - but what it looked like and the blankets and pajamas as well - those could possibly have some clues if trouble was brewing -
also when Summer and Joseph were staying with his parents before moving into the house were you able to speak to any of the neighbors on that street to verify if the black corvette ever drove by there and what if anything they observed?
Do you know who answered the phone for EIP? If Joey was working from home, was it a landline from his home? Thanks
ReplyDeleteRick have you been in touch with Tim Miller lately?
ReplyDeleteI saw your post about his nomination and I've always wondered why he backed off of the Mcstay case?
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ReplyDeleteRick one can't help but notice that you haven't answered any questions on this thread in some time!
ReplyDeleteAlso noticed the "sploof" blog has been taken down- who was behind that and is there anything new to report in the McStay case? Is the book still on schedule for February or will it be published earlier?
Yes, the book will be released on February 4, 2013. Pre-publication copies will be in the hands of select media by the middle of January. There is not much to discuss now so I am waiting for the book's release and then we will have lively discussion. Thanks for your comment.
Delete...and who was behind it? and why was it taken down?
DeleteI do not know who was behind it. It was taken down because it violated Google's policy on numerous levels, as I understand.
DeleteRick, have you heard about the human remains found east of Temecula? I don't think they have identified them yet, but do you think this could be Joseph? You think that Summer killed him, right?
ReplyDeleteRick,
ReplyDeleteI never heard any follow up on certain sightings of the family such as on the ferry and Summer at a casino. Do you know if any of these sightings are credible? I can't wait for your book to come out.
Hi Anne- I think the NC sighting has credibility and maybe the casino one as well. I went to the casino to look at the area Summer was allegedly spotted and of course Southport at the restaurant and ferry. I think the one common denominator in all these sightings is Summer and the kids. The man with this woman is never consistent in appearance. I talk more about this in the book. Thanks for your question.
DeleteMr. Baker, i understand that in your book you reveal some very negative stuff about Joseph's father and brother. Maybe you have a purpose in this? Do you think they are involved? But, aren't you afraid that they will take you to court if what you say is libeling or slandering them?
ReplyDeleteActually, I am expecting them to sue and I am looking forward to it. Thanks for the question.
DeleteI'm confused... one of the moderators on Michael McStay's Facebook page just said that you have never met any of the family and have never spoken with them. I thought you had Mike on your radio show? Have you ever met Joseph's father Patrick or spoken with him on the phone?
ReplyDeleteI interviewed Mike on my radio show, spent time with him on the phone. I spent over 20 hours on the phone with Patrick and spent considerable time with Summer's family. I believe that the mod on that page has been suckered by Mike, don't be too hard on her. Thanks for the question.
DeleteAre there going to be many photos in your book? I've never seen any photos of the back yard, or that direction, will you have some of it?
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to your book.
Yes, 20 pages of photos, many never seen.
DeleteRick, it seems to me that the police and sheriffs dept have not done a real bang up job on this case from the beginning. they apparently don't give updates to the family and it just appears they don't care. do you think they know the family just left so they won't spend time on the case?
ReplyDeleteI think that LE has done a good job on the case. Don't interpret their silence as apathy. Their investigation is going full steam ahead. Thanks for the question.
DeleteMr baker, have you heard any new news on the body found in temecula?
ReplyDeleteNo news yet. It appears to only be bones but has been referred to homicide detectives while they undertake autopsy and try to identify. Let's just hope and pray that all these sightings are really the family and that they have a good explanation for why they left.
DeleteRick, I am glad that the authorities took down that awful blog that was so bad for you but I have a question you have never answered and i hope you will. They said that you beat your wife, is this true? were you convicted of beating your wife? the reason i ask is you don't seem to be that kind of man with your dad advocacy you run around the country. you don't have to answer but i hope you do and i hope you post this question. Thank you in advance.
ReplyDeleteAll the charges against me, all of them, were false. In my book, The Tears of a Father, I present the actual court transcripts from the judge who declares the charges to be "false," orders all my "bail money refunded" (very rare) and recommends I "sue LE for false arrest." (I never did)
ReplyDeleteI have never been verbally or physically abusive to any woman in my lifetime, period. The false charges were leveled by my ex over custody issues we had before us, and were furthered by a female officer who wasn't concerned with the facts. It's all in the book. If you are interested send me your address and I'll send you a complimentary copy. rglennbaker@mac.com.
It is because of my experience with this immoral family court system that I wrote the book, hoping it will help other fathers learn how to maneuver this flawed legal system without losing their kids.
The author of the blog of which you speak was not then, nor will ever be, concerned with the truth, although they may be forced to face it in the future. The blog was taken down as a result of my law firm's direct involvement with the Internet and their compiling of all comments from all sites that qualify as "online libel," for use next year.
The world is full of people with small minds who believe anything they read without trying to verify the facts, and sometimes it comes back to bite them. They are fools.
(Definition of a fool: "A person deficient in intellect; one who acts absurdly, or pursues a course contrary to the dictates of wisdom; one without judgment; a simpleton; a dolt.")
You are obviously not one of them. Thanks for seeking the truth!
Rick, I have never seen this picture anywhere online of the McStay's kitchen? Where did you get this? Thankyou.
ReplyDeleteThis is one of the many pictures I took when I spent time in their house. I have 20 pages of pictures such as this, never before seen, in the book.
DeleteMr. Baker, thanks for posting all these pictures. I am looking forward to reading your book.
ReplyDeleteThank you for investigating this case. I find it interesting how the McStay family is responding to this book. In my opinion, if they really had no idea what happened to their family, they would be grateful someone is bringing so much attention to the case...
ReplyDeleteYes, their response if very strange, though I think once you read the book you will understand why they don't want the book published. Thanks for your comment.
DeleteThis blog is looking very nice and professional. I am looking forward to the book, not necessarily because I think it will surprise me with new info but I'm interested in the format in which it will be presented. It will be a fresh look at some old information and maybe there is something that was missed along the way or maybe it's just the renewed attention to the case that will get people interested. I find it strange that some of the people on the extended Mcstay family Facebook pages have said that the reward being offered puts the family in jeopardy. When people make statements like that it says to me they know (or suspect) much more than they are saying.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the kind words, but prepare to be surprised! Thanks again.
DeleteRick, I agree with your other posters. Something is wrong with the extended family when they continue to criticize you. You offer a reward and they say it will hurt the family? What is wrong with the people, or better yet, what are they hiding? I am glad you are monitoring the web for posts that may be illegal. I wonder what the family knows that they are not telling? Thanks for your investigation on this case. Do you have any other cases you will write about after this book is released?
ReplyDeleteWell, I am hoping that this book puts the McStay case out into the public in a way it has not been because someone knows something and $25,000 might get them to talk. My immediate goal is to learn what happened to the McStays and especially Gianni and little Joey. But, yes, we are already working on another case that is a mystery and might make for a good book.
DeleteAs far as libel on the Internet, we live in a different world today concerning the definition of free speech. I am all for the right for everyone's opinion, however, there are legal remedies when the line is crossed and we will be exercising them to be sure.
The Jamison family in Eufala, OK, maybe?
DeleteMr. Baker, we have followed your blog from its inception and I must admit it does now look very professional and is filled with good information on the case. I was one of your biggest critics when you first launched it but fair is fair, and I now am a supporter. Looking forward to the book.
ReplyDeleteWow, thanks for your comment.
DeleteRick, why do you think that so many of the kids toys were left in the house by the extended family? They look like good toys and I don't get it. I am a mother and I would not leave toys like this in an abandoned house. Why would Mike's family leave them there? Didn't he have kids? Too many questions about how these people have reacted to their missing family. Something does not add up.
ReplyDeleteGood question, wish I had the answer.
DeleteRick, I have heard that Joseph's mother has moved to Ohio and left the state and her grandkids. Do you know why she would do this? I can't imagine moving so far away from my grandchildren. Is she afraid of something or someone?
ReplyDeleteAnother good question.
DeleteDo you know this to be fact? Or is it just another of the numerous rumors that have been floating around since the family disappeared?
DeleteI used to be a member of both Patrick McStay and Mike McStay facebook pages but have since dropped off. I sure don't understand why they are as mean as they are to you and especially don't get it about the reward. Why would the family not want the reward? This just makes no sense to me.
ReplyDeleteI think you will learn the answer to this and other questions in the book.
DeleteGlad to see your blog active again. I am hoping the human remains found in Aguangua, CA 2 miles off the 74 are not that of a McStay family member. They actually find a ton of bodies in Riv County, so this is nothing new, but the location of these would fit. I hope not!! Are you in touch with homicide detectives from Riv County? If not, you know you can sign up for email updates on the Riverside County Sheriff's website. Problem is there is so much bad stuff happening in Riverside County that you will get a billion emails a day about all the horrific stuff happening there. Which is why the remains are likely not the McStay's.
ReplyDeleteI guess February is not so long to wait for your book. And hey you need to get an L.A. book signing event too. And some radio and TV appearances. KFI radio has a huge signal from L.A. into Orage and Riverside Counties. Eric Leonard is their crime reporter. You might want to get him interested.
Why do I keep feeling like this is all about to finally be solved?
Happy Holidays!
I was a little creeped out when I heard about this. Just last week I was reading the McStay thread on Psychic Crimefighter and one of the posters said that Joseph was killed and buried east of San Diego. I’m not a huge believer in psychics but I do think there are some actual legit ones amongst the fakes. There are a couple of people on there who claim Summer and the boys are still living in California in a remote area and are living quietly under the radar with the boys being home schooled. I think this is very probable. I don’t believe it was the McStays on the border crossing video and we’ve all heard about Summer turning down a family vacation with friends, stating she would never take her kids there because it was too dangerous. Does this sound like a woman who would decide to cross the border with her children at night and then start a new life there? NO. I think she would stay in the U.S. and pick a remote location to live. She previously lived in Big Bear, so she didn’t seem to mind being away from the big city. She already seemed to like to keep a distance from others, she gave birth at home and planned on homeschooling the boys. With those factors in place, I don’t think it’s too hard to believe that she could possibly be living in a remote area under an assumed name, only going into town for groceries and other necessities. She oblivious knew how to get a new identity since she’d done it before. The thing that makes me sad is thinking about the boys being put through something like this, never getting to see their home, dogs or belongings again, wondering where their dad went and then wondering why their mother told them they had new names. Can you imagine what that would be like for a child? They are the biggest victims of whatever happened here.
DeleteYes, this is the reason for all our efforts, isn't it? It's all about the children. If Joseph and Summer left on their own and have stayed gone for almost 3 years, they should be held accountable for this, but the children are still the victims, just as they are if one parent did something to the other. It's all about Gianni and little Joey.
DeleteShe wouldn't knowingly leave Bear, she loved that dog like it was her own child. She wouldn't have left eggs out on a counter. No way; not a woman!
DeleteIs there a significance behind the image for this blog's wallpaper (snowy mountain?)? Summer bought a number of snowsuits on eBay. Hmmm.
ReplyDelete-jash
Hey Jash, no story behind the wallpaper, I just love the snow and the Rockies (as does Summer I guess) but good observation!
DeleteOMG - Will Febuaray come already! Big Fan of you and Alex Jones. (InfoWars.com)
ReplyDeleteThanks Edward for the kind words!
DeleteNice blog I just preordered your book. Will you sign it please? GRV.
ReplyDeleteHi Rick,
ReplyDeleteI appreciate all of your dedication to this case. I can't wait to read your book in February. I hope this entire family is found safe soon.
I was curious about whatever happened to the McStay home. Have family members kept up with the payments in anticipation that the family will one day return to it? Has it gone into foreclosure, and, if so, are there new people living in it now?
Sara
Hi Sara, yes, I too hope the family is found safe and very soon!
DeleteJoseph's house was foreclosed by the bank and sold on December 28, 2011 for $345,000. This price was "as is" with most of the landscape in a distressed condition if not completely dead. It is sad that had Joseph been able to finish his renovation, complete with landscaping, he most likely would have been able to sell it for close to $420,000, it's estimated value in today's market there. He bought the house to make a profit and get back to the beach and would most likely been able to do so.
Just wondering about the people who owned the house before the McStays. Would they have any problems with them. Also, it ws stated that Joey met with two men in business suits at some type of game field. Was it to buy Spanish tapes his wife ordered from Craigslist? Very scary!
DeleteAnother question...sorry! I have always found it to be odd that there is supposedly no video of the border crossing from the opposite direction where we can see their faces. What is your opinion on this? Do you think this video does exist and that this is information that law enforcement is keeping close to the vest? If I remember correctly, someone from Websleuths checked and was told that there should be video surveillance from that direction.
ReplyDeleteSara
Some of the cameras on the Mexican side weren't working yet, not even sure all the cameras were up yet.
DeleteBottom line, i don't believe the video is the McStays. The media has stirred this video into a frenzy and there is no evidence it is the family yet everyone keeps talking about it. Isn't them. Someone wanted the Trooper found, which is why they parked it where they did. I have a chapter on this video in the book that I hope will once and for all stop the talk about it, though I doubt it will :) Thanks for the comment Sara!
I noticed on the justicequest website that IIRC you believed that the Merida sighting was a credible sighting and that Summer had a bank account in North Carolina or South Carolina with a substantial amount of money - was the bank account ever investigated when all of the sightings on the east coast were reported in I believe it was the Carolinas? That makes so much more sense about them being there if that's the case. Was the name on the bank account investigated and if there was still a valid passport in existence where she could sneak in and try and grab the money from her account? Were there any members of the family who had access to make withdrawls from that bank account other than Summer - the one that I thought was in the Carolinas -
ReplyDeletetrying to determine if there is a connection between the Merida sighting and the bank account over in that area
Also, it has been stated on the McStay website that the tip in Baja, California was deemed a closed investigation of the tip and that it was not Summer - something about the wording suggested to me that the McStay's may not be convinced with the police investigation on that tip and wondering if any of Summer's alias's were checked by the police department when verifying the location and surrounding areas - how were they able to determine that it wasn't Summer in the investigation? what are your thoughts on that tip and it's credibility? just got the impression that the it is deemed closed was a carefully chosen way to say what they felt - jmo and wondering about your thoughts on that tip as well
thank you for all of your hard work in the research - if Summer was leaving the dogs outside to alert the neighbors and get their attention is it possible that her boyfriend driving the black corvette is the one who is involved in this and Joey walked in on something on his way home from his meeting with Chase Merritt that night - just being devils advocate with Summer with the boyfriend I saw mentioned on justicequest - that would explain the spontaneous departure of the whole family - plus it's possible Summer kept all of her sunglasses together in a bag or box so it may not have been that much work to grab all of them at the last minute - just saying
also - were the texts according to the timeline on justicequest between Summer and Joseph's phones ever verified on February 4th and what they were discussing and did you meet with the men who Joseph was meeting with at the game late in January right before the disappearance - something about that has always stood out as wel
Lots of questions and thanks for the post. Most of these are answered in the book, but I'll take a couple now: I don't think there is any connection between the Merida sighting and the NC Credit Union acct.
DeleteSecond, I cannot "prove" that Summer was having an affair, this is a theory of mine, and I think credible, but still unproven. I am still working on confirming this and am actually getting closer than I thought I might. Will keep you updated.
It is possible that they left the country thru a cruiseline out of Mexico.
ReplyDeleteI worked as a natl. director overseeing 35 Hilton hotels, I've worked in the cruise biz & now, one of my businesses is medical tourism out of Tijuana & Cancun. I arrange weightloss & cosmetic surgery in Mexico for people from the US, Canadian & UK. I live in Florida & fly into San Diego, then drive across the border.
It's very very common to park near the border - everybody does it, then you either walk or get transportation across the border. Mexico couldn't care less who comes in, it's the exit they monitor.
I know from working with the cruiselines that their operations & standards for passengers is very lax. They care about the $$ fare, not so much about anything else.
It's VERY easy to board a cruiseship, either a major one like Carnival or a regional one owned by a local in Mexico. You can board in Mexico & disembark at any port, then travel wherever you like. If I were running, that is exactly what I would do...only because I know how easy it is to get on/off without the proper paperwork.
Kim Houston
Florida
Hey Kim, great theory! Thanks for your input.
DeleteRick, please don't pay any attention to those who are trying to discourage you. You are one of the few who is trying to show some integrity with this case. Nobody pays any attention to these few who will answer one day for their actions. Hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving and enjoyed your day of rest. Now, get back to it again tomorrow. Can't wait for your book. Don't know how to put my name here.
ReplyDeleteCraig Sellars
California
Hey Craig, Had a great Thanksgiving and you have a Merry Christmas!
DeleteHi, Rick. I am among those who find you sincere in intent. Still, I am trying to reconcile a few issues:
ReplyDeleteIf the Merida sighting is credible, in your opinion, how is this--or any sighting anywhere--consistent with what you proffer that Summer had Joseph killed? What's more, it would appear to me that you vacillate between them being alive and at least Joey being dead. Please clarify to the best of your ability given that the book is forthcoming.
Thanks and happy holiday. Matt
I think the only common denominator in these sightings is that the woman and kids look like Summer, Gianni and little Joey. The man is never quite the same nor does he fit Joseph, other than the Southport sighting, which I find credible having spent time there. So there you have it; a true mystery.
DeleteJoseph being dead would, unfortunately, be consistent with Mike's and other's assertion that it doesn't appear to be Joseph on the border crossing video. In my opinion, I always felt that that man's silhouette appears too slender and tall to be Joey. Still, it takes guts for them to cross the most heavily traveled border crossing in the world and NOT get clear shots indicating Joseph is not among them. That is, of course, if there aren't other images not released by LE.
ReplyDeleteKeep up the work. Never thought anything could supplant the JFK assassination as the object of my obsession. (As we discussed, I do believe Oswald, acting alone, killed Kennedy.) Don't know what to make of this case...
Happy Holidays, Rick!
Matt
HaHa, Matt! I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree about Oswald but you we sure agree about the McStay mystery. Looking forward to meeting you in February. Thanks again for your comments! (PS: Oswald couldn't have done it alone, regardless of what Bill O'Reilly says!)
DeleteHey Rick
ReplyDeleteWhere can I preorder the book?
My other question: do you have theories where the bodies or body (Joseph's most likely) could be? Is it actually possible in this day and age for a family to drop off the radar? Do you think we will ever find out what happened to them?
Hey Two Hearts! You can order the book on this page, the link is on the right hand margin after the pics, and thanks!
DeleteI don't have any theories as to where a body might be. Anywhere east of the McStay's house is wide open and becomes desert. They found the body of murdered teenager Amber Dubois just a few miles east of their house, very sad.
I sure hope we learn one day what truly happened. I thought that by now someone would have tried to collect the $25,000 reward. Thanks for your post.
Will your book be available to download onto Ibooks, or do I need to oder an actual hard copy? I am looking forward to reading it, and can hardly wait!!!
ReplyDeleteYes, it will be available as an Ebook or ITunes from my publisher's site in early February. Their address is www.tatepublishing.com. Look for the book at that time. Thanks for your comments and I'm anxious to hear your thoughts after you read it.
DeleteRick, what is the status of the human remains found outside of Temecula last month? Have they identified? Do you think it could be Joey? Just wondering thanks.
ReplyDeleteI am in contact with the Riverside SD and they will let me know when and if there is an identification. They are very busy with other cases so I don't expect an answer until after the holidays, but I doubt the remains are Joseph.
DeleteNice website Rick, i enjoy reading it and i look for your book coming soon. Thanks for trying to bring order out of the chaos from this case.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment!
DeleteMr Baker, with all the sadness of the past few days everyone is now talking about guns. Do you know if Joseph or Summer had guns and if so what kind?
ReplyDeleteI do not know.
DeleteMr. Baker,
ReplyDeleteKudos to you and your book. I'm highly impressed with your decision to send proceeds to Tim Miller - and yet, you are still castigated on the Find the McStay Fam FB as a money-grubbing, 'bad Christian.'
I only bring it up, in the hopes that someone will read this, check the veracity of my statement, and then ponder, "Who is really trying to find the McStay family, without any benefit to themselves?"
As soon as I asked and answered that question for myself, I realized a lot of things about this case - namely, who is sincere. And that's a big part.
Thank you.
DeleteWith all these "supposed" sightings, why hasn't anyone thought to take a picture of them?
ReplyDeleteHaha, great question isn't it? I know that Tracy in Southport tried but conditions at work didn't allow it.
DeleteRick, I understand that you have been commissioned to investigate and write a book about the missing Jamison family after this book is released? Is this true? I have this on very good information. I know you have been talking to officials there. Do you think they are living in Mexico? I am concerned about Madyson. Do you agree with pantagraph.com that they were involved with drugs and split? Did you know that they are not listed as missing persons either like the mcstays?
ReplyDeleteOkay, sorry for all the questions but I want to know what happened to the Jamison's. Will you move to OK to do this? I ask because I live in OK City and my husband and I would love to meet you. I have ordered your mcstay book and cant wait to read it.
Interesting Sherry, would love to know where you heard this?
DeleteIt is true that I have been in contact with some who have spent two years on the case and we are talking, but I have not committed to anything as of yet. If this family really is in hiding with assistance from the DEA and they are the druggies that some have accused them of being, then I don't want to do anything to do with the case. If, on the other hand, they are on the mountain or disappeared for some other reason, I might be interested, but not in the near future.
My primary passion now is the McStay family and I would have a hard time moving away from them. Though I have never met them, I feel like I know them. I want to know what happened on that Thursday night and where they are. I am hopeful that the book release will generate massive discussion about the family and maybe help bring a resolution, or "partial resolution," to the McStay mystery.
I just don't think I can abandon the McStays until we know what happened and the fate of Gianni and little Joey. Let's find the family!
Thanks Rick nice to know you are loyal to the McStays. I know you have been talking to Brett Faulds about a Jamison book, that's what I know. Have a Merry Christmas and thank you for your honesty.
ReplyDeleteRick, do you know if the San Diego Sheriff's Department is going to issue any special statement on the third anniversary of the case? They have not said much lately and they must know many people are now following this maybe they will give us an update do you think?
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't expect law enforcement to make any statement about the McStays unless there is new information, and even then, probably not.
DeleteMr Baker, did you interview or talk to Dan Kavanugh for your book? I know he has been involved in this in some way or other, just wondered if you talked to him and what he said?
ReplyDeleteYes, I talked to Dan extensively. I devote a long chapter to him in the book. He shed some interesting light on the events just after the disappearance and probably didn't realize much of what he admitted in our many phone, email and text conversations. The last I heard he said he wanted to write his own book called, "Web of Deceit." He demanded that I not publish any of our conversations, which I ignored.
DeleteThanks and i can't wait to read what he said, especially if he didn't want you to print it.
DeleteWhat about Chase Meritt, did you interview him? He was the one to see Joey what did he tell you he has remained pretty quiet in this.
ReplyDeleteNice blog keep it up.
ReplyDeleteThanks.
DeleteThis case has turned into one big pissing contest. This one is going to sue that one and that one is going to sue this one. It's ridiculous. Who hasn't been accused of wrong doing? You have, Mike has, Patrick has, DK and CM have. I hope your book does shed new light on this terrible mystery. I also hope that you and the McStays can kiss and make up and eventually work together and find these children. I don't know what happened that your relationship with the McStays became so hostile. At one point the McStays trusted you. I think it's such a mistake to continue this hostility. I hope that 2013 will bring enlightenment to the case and to those chosen to help find the children.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment. I talk at length in the book about what happened between myself and Patrick McStay. As far as Mike, I suppose it will be obvious what happened there as well. I agree about the hostility and wish it were not so.
DeleteI just pre-ordered the book as a Christmas present to myself, can't wait to read it! Thanks for your hard work Rick!
ReplyDeleteThanks Scott! Merry Christmas!
Deletehey rick never did meet with you when you came to big bear....not sure why you didnt pursue it but ....i do thank you for the reward to find my friend and her family....no hard feelings.....i probably couldnt have helped more than i already have..but if you read her emails then u know she sent me one the week she disappeared..god bless you and yours...
ReplyDeleteYes, sorry I couldn't work out actually meeting but sure enjoyed our phone conversations. Happy Holidays M and thanks for the post!
DeleteMr Baker will you be doing any media interviews in the UK?
ReplyDeleteYes. Radio stations in Ireland and England on Jan. 17 and 20. Will post more info after first of year.
DeleteWho was the last person confirmed to have actually seen Summer and the boys before they disappeared and when/where was that?
ReplyDeleteThis is a great question. Her neighbor told me she thought she saw her at about 5pm on Thursday, but wasn't positive. I suppose only Summer can answer for certain.
DeleteWow this is interesting reading! I stumbled across this. I will be getting book. From uk first ive heard about this.
ReplyDeleteHey thanks! I will be a guest on the UK show, "The Free Thinking Radio Show" with hosts Andy Peecher and Kevin Bull in mid-January. You can go to http://freethinkingvoice.org to confirm the date and time.
DeleteWill you publish a calendar of where you are speaking when the book comes out?
ReplyDeleteYes, I will post on my blog the dates by next week. Have a Happy New Year!
DeleteI read somewhere that you said you had help with your investigation on this case, maybe it was web sleuths. That 'they' had hacked into email accounts and gave you this information. Are you going to reveal who helped you and do they get some of the profits from your book or only TexasSearch?
ReplyDeleteYes, I did have help. In fact, without their help I never would have completed the book. However, I never wrote anywhere that they "hacked" into anyone's email accounts. (The hacking was done by someone else.) The ones who helped me did not break the law in any way and in fact were committed to integrity in everything they did. I offered them part of the profits because I believe they deserved it for their efforts, but they refused. They told me often that all they cared about was finding the family, especially the kids. They proved this to me by their actions.
DeleteApparently, you did not read my above post very carefully. I wrote that the good people who helped me DID NOT hack these email accounts. They are certainly not "unscrupulous" as you claim, in fact, from your post, I would say their integrity towers above yours, and maybe you should count your own scruples.
DeleteLaw Enforcement knows who hacked Joseph's and Summer's email accounts.
The only ones with any standing here are Joseph and Summer. They are welcome to sue over someone hacking their email accounts. The fact is that without these emails, one can continue to believe that the family just crossed the border and are living happily ever after in some other country. However, with the emails, (which are original and not false) this mystery takes a sordid turn.
But, I suspect you are not really interested in solving this mystery. Happy New Year just the same.